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``` [For those who are curious, these are the blurbs that RRE readers sent in response to my solicitation. All of them are very nice, and senders of political diatribes will please read and weep. I've standardized the formatting and edited out personal notes and long signatures. Don't repost this file, though, since it's not very useful on its own. Soon I'll write up an advertisement for RRE that draws on bits and pieces of these blurbs, and I will be honored if you feel like reposting that advertisement where appropriate. Thanks very much. Of the perhaps eight hundred messages I've sent to RRE over the last two years, I can honestly say that I only regret four of them. (They were a wrong-headed political action alert, an egregious copyright violation, a hoax presenting itself as an inflammatory political statement, and a largely plagiarized newsletter. Each was a case in which I went against my gut instinct in sending something out.) I'm glad that the other 99.5% of the messages were useful enough that a few thousand people have chosen to stay on the list. Please keep on sending me good stuff that might be of broad interest to RRE readers, and please keep on spreading the word about RRE to the four billion people who are not yet on the list. Phil]
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 95 09:53:43 -0400
From: "Dr. Tom Blinn, 603-881-0646"
In the time I have been a subscriber to the Red Rock Eater News Service I have found that you filter and forward a wealth of fascinating information that I suspect I wouldn't have seen otherwise. Your personal interests are clearly an important factor in the value of the service you provide -- your staunch defense of personal privacy is refreshing, and your championship of both traditional and innovative forms of personal expression and free speech are clearly evident in the selection of materials you provide.
For me, that's the significant value -- I see stuff worth seeing. It's kind of like A&E's motto -- time well spent, except that the time spent reading the materials you disseminate really IS time well spent, in my opinion.
Dr. Thomas P. Blinn Principal Software Engineer (and general gadfly) UNIX Software Group, Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:13:22 -0400 From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Phil's list has included remarkably interesting articles and for years. I find timely pieces here that I couldn't have anywhere else on the Internet. Thanks Phil and thanks to Red Rock Eater for making the Internet an informative place.
Carolyn L Burke Senior Consultant, Finite Systems Consulting Toronto, ON, Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 22:26:44 +1100 From: Andrew.Treloar@deakin.edu.au (Andrew Treloar)
"I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again - thank you for RRE! It is one of the most useful (and stimulating and thought provoking) mailing lists that drops things into my mailbox. A lot of electronic communication (for me, at least) is ephemeral. I read it once (or just skim it), extract some parts for later use and delete it. Your material I save and re-read, think over what you are saying, test it out against my understanding of how the world works. The difference is like that between white bread bought from a supermarket and a good light-rye sourdough bought from a wood-fired bakery. Much chewier, and much healthier!"
Andrew Treloar School of Computing and Mathematics Deakin University Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:27:20 -0400
From: Alan Wexelblat
"Excellent" raves MIT Media Labber Alan Wexelblat. "Highest signal-to-noise ratio around!"
Seriously, though, I find rre to be consistently high-quality and a useful way to find out about other sources of information I hadn't already known about. These are the two key features of non-discussion lists, in my opinion. I also like the fact that the list is archived and available over the web.
--Alan Wexelblat, Reality Hacker, Author, and Cyberspace Bard MIT Media Lab - Intelligent Agents Group
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:31:04 CST6CST
From: "Larry A. Etkin"
It's difficult to keep up with all the electronic discussions I'd like -- my employer does expect me to spend some of my time working -- and so I've sought out "moderated" lists that each attack areas of concern to me. The burden these list owners take on, sorting through volumes to winnow the valuable grains of information and opinion, are truly appreciated, and within the arena of electronic privacy and the impacts of our communications technologies on society, Phil Agre performs this valuable service with his Red Rock Eater. I happened upon it accidently more than a year ago and consider it a very valuable resource.
Larry A. Etkin Senior Editor--Experiment Station Educational Development System Minnesota Extension Service University of Minnesota St. Paul, Minnesota
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 16:28:48 +0200 From: Gorny@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE (Peter Gorny)
The Red Rock Eater News Service is an excellent institution, since it provides me with arguements to " .. promote competition, provide open access to information networks, strengthen and improve universal service and provide for flexible regulations for this important industry. .. " (B.Clinton July 1995)
Much of the information I can use in my lectures -- and I have often given articles from rre to students for investigation and inclusion in their papers.
Peter Gorny Informatics Dept. - C. v. Ossietzky University Oldenburg Computer Graphics & Human Computer Interaction Unit
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:38:38 -0800 From: alec_plumb@taligent.com (Alec B. Plumb)
Phil Agre's insight into the inner workings of culture, wired or not, is incredible. It is a pleasure to watch him think "out loud" on the problems of human interaction.
Alec Plumb Software Engineer Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 16:50:28 +0000
From: Judith Sherwood
RRE is my one 'treat' as a listserv - since all my other subscriptions are narowly focussed on my line of work. It serves as an essential guide to the 'big picture' issues that affect both my profession, and my role as a citizen in this society, and I've come to rely on it as an early warning system for governmental and commercial activities that are going to impact all of us. My thanks to Phil Agre for managing to do that, and for including enough variety and scope of subjects to make it entertaining reading as well (it's not like reading up on national telecommunications policy is my first choice for recreational reading...).
Judith Sherwood Supervising Librarian, Technical Services San Diego Public Library
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 23:32:24 -0700 From: peytons@ix.netcom.com
Red Rock Eater cuts through the intellectual spam and delivers the real meat of the Internet. If you need to know not only what happened yesterday, but what is happening now and what may well happen in the future, Red Rock Eater will spark insights, feed intuition, and keep you entertained as well. It's all content; no hype. Subscribe now and read it every day.
(Seriously, Phil, this is great stuff you put out.)
Peyton Stafford Peyton Stafford Associates Portland, Oregon
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 05:43:59 GMT From: ronald.morgan@tigerteam.org (Ronald Morgan)
I find the RRE (Red Rock Eater) list to be a concise and intelligently edited journal of informative articles and forwarded posts from every far flung corner of the Net, with a ratio of delights to clunkers running about 6 to 4. This is far from faint praise. I belong to several lists, ranging from home educating to Tibetan Buddhism, and the amount of thought provocation (i.e., juicy stuff) if higher on RRE than any other lists I to which I subscribe.
Thanks for your excellent service, Ronald Morgan Contractor/Home-educator San Francisco, Ca.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 05:21:00 -0400 From: david.lloyd-jones@canrem.com (David Lloyd-Jones)
Phil Agre's "Red Rock Eater" Net feed is an almost daily supply of interesting common sense -- useful documents, news, the occasional press release or political piece. No rant.
If Newton Minow were arround today he would call the Net America's "great wasteland." Red Rock Eater is a small oasis of palms and water in that wasteland.
David Lloyd-Jones The guy who built the first 400 coin laundries in Japan david.lloyd-jones@canrem.com Toronto, Canada.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 04:24 EST
From: Dan Tebbutt
I have found RRE to be especially useful in filtering socio-political developments in the US on telecommunications and NII policy. As a foreign journalist in a country experiencing rapid expansion from an already large base of Internet users, US developments affect us in major ways. Concise reportage on significant manoeuvres is vital to my work.
One series of bulletins I found outstanding was the coverage of the Time 'cyberporn' cover story and the ensuing fallout. Posting critical documents to the listserv saved me hours trolling through Usenet group. It proved once again that mailing lists have a higher signla to noise ratio than newsgroups.
Dan Tebbutt Contributing Editor LAN Magazine (Australia/New Zealand) dtebbutt@acp.com.au
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 07:16:12 -0400
From: Patrick Nielsen Hayden
I have been reading RRE ever since a friend sent me your piece about the Oklahoma City bombing, and I've found the list to be the net's single greatest source of items I feel compelled to forward to others.
Patrick Nielsen Hayden senior editor, Tor Books New York, New York
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 04:26:12 -0700
From: (John Sechrest)
The Red Rock Eater News Service provides me with a small number of highly focused articles about the relationship of telecommunications and the social consequences of telecommunications. This kind of high quality information stream allows me to know more about these types of issues with less work filtering thru the noise of the random newslist. I wish that there were more services like this on other related topics.
John Sechrest Executive Director Computer Science Outreach Services Oregon State University Corvallis Oregon
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:03:03 EDT From: stephen@ai.mit.edu (Stephen A. Gilbert)
RRE is particularly nice because of the personal touch added by Phil Agre, the editor. He writes in a professional but approachable tone and has also responded personally when I've submitted a piece for distribution or had questions about the list.
Stephen A. Gilbert Graduate Student MIT Cambridge, MA
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:26:04 +0059 (EDT)
From: Laurence R Swain
RRE is my pipeline into an area of cyberspace that I otherwise do not encounter day to day. Phil's eclectic approach to what might be of considerable interest to me is pretty much right on target, and I find myself ahead of most of the media on significant stories as a result of spending a few minutes each day reading RRE e-mail.
Laurence R. Swain
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:51:39 EDT From: michalik@VNET.IBM.COM
"RRE is the Harper's Magazine of Internet Mailing Lists".
Bernie Michalik Advisory Technical Specialist Advantis, Canada Toronto, Ontario
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 95 09:39:54 EST From: mrew@smtpgate.ssmc.noaa.gov
You are aware how important obtaining pertinent information is for citizens in a democracy and for professionals. Although I have found ways to do just about anything I put my mind to as a blind person, obtaining valuable information from print media is a major inconvenience. A email list such as the RRE is particularly useful to the visually impaired because the text character set is accessible by all adaptive equipment. With the wide spread use of PCs and networks I feel that a significant improvement has been made for the blind and visually impaired for obtaining information, reading independently.
A "news" email list such as The Red Rock Eater is especially useful because the subscriber receives full thought-out reports, not quick clipped comments of individuals on the fly without much thought. Also, the majority of the postings are focused on social, political, economic, and personal effects of computer and telecommunication technologies. This focus has benefited me in two areas. In following the public policies on telecommunications i.e. congressional action and government regulations. Second, this list has been a very useful source of learning about other online and network resources. I use the public policies posts in analyzing the direction of the information system services field. My office leads and supports the information technology needs of our agency. When I started in this office we mainly performed "data processing" by writing in-house software. Today much of our support to our clients is LAN and WAN management and off the shelf network application software. The issues are becoming more and more complex. We are now installing capabilities to allow clients to send faxes and page to individuals from their email. These are all technological changes, but the policy issues are more applicable in this newer online environment. For example, are emails between Government employees who manage contracts binding, or are email messages audited during a legal protest by a company. There are too many policy issues because of the newer technology for me to discuss all of them here. The point is the type of posts that RRE contains assists in understanding the corresponding policy issues of this technology.
I hope that the above blurb is not too long. If you or any of your readers are interested I have written papers on the effects of the PC an online services to blind and visually impaired individuals. Also, I have papers discussing the challenge of obtaining timely and pertinent documents for education and employment purposes by blind persons.
Mark Rew; Information Systems Analyst Information System Section, National Weather Service Silver Spring, MD. 20910
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:11:29 EDT From: brzrkr@unipress.com
I've subscribed to RRE since 1993, and haven't ever wanted to unsubscribe. The world is much too large for me to keep track of it all. RRE is very helpful in keeping me in touch with important slices of life that I would otherwise be clueless about. I enjoy Phil's philosophical tidbits in TNO, and wonder how he ever finds time to eat, much less keep track of all the various sources of info that end up in RRE (hey! is there some neural net at work here?). RRE has a very low noise level.
S. Patrick Hickey Chief Techie Hacker and Game Warden UniPress Software Edison, NJ
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 09:15:57 -0500 From: coffin@evl.eecs.uic.edu (ART-Tom Coffin)
The RRE has provided a new source of information, which is varied in bias and stimulating as a whole.
Tom Coffin artist art on the net Chicago, Illinois
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:28 PDT From: grs@claircom.com (Gregg Siegfried)
Of the many mailing lists that I subscribe to, RRE provides the most consistently interesting and useful content. The information on the RRE list comprises a diverse cross-section of technical, political, and privacy related subjects, most directly relevant to anyone interested in electronic communication/community.
Gregg R. Siegfried Director, System & Network Engineering Claircom Communications Seattle, Washington, USA.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:58:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ilene Frank (REF)"
"Phil Agre indulges in the kind of intelligent Internet commentary that makes you glad that you are a member of the human race." Too hyperbolic maybe. So what about this instead?:
As a teacher of a 3 credit course on the "Use of the Internet," I'm always on the lookout for intelligent Net commentary for my students. RRE supplies that in spades. Dr. Agre always manages to post rational accounts of the sometimes bizarre and chaotic world of the Internet.
Ilene Frank, University Librarian Reference Dept. Tampa Campus Library University of South Florida
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:51:24 +0100 From: pfh@nptn.org (Peter Harter)
I think the service you provide is a very useful one to the Net community and I rely upon it as a source of useful and timely information about current issues and off-beat topics that I would not otherwise think about if not for seeing them in my emailbox from your server.
Thanks for your hard work as your service has a high signal to noise ratio -- in fact very little noise. Perhaps, too much signal sometimes as one has to slow down and actually read instead of scan the text on the screen.
Peter F. Harter Executive Director & General Counsel The National Public Telecomputing Network
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 08:21:20 PDT
From:
RRE has a distractingly high signal-to-noise ratio. - David Keppel
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:25:08 -0700 From: dmitchel@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Dave W Mitchell)
As a community activist in rural telecommunications access, I find RRE to be the timeliest, most focused, and most concise source of information on potholes in the vaporway. It represents the kind of tool that will ultimately keep the system from crashing under its own weight, a means of summoning an army of technorats, each carrying a personal 2 x 4 to help shore up the points of collapse. Encourage and support its wider dissemination as a model for the resocializing power of the medium.
Dave W. Mitchell Acting Executive Oregon Coast Rural Information Service Cooperative
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:04:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sandy Kyrish
RRE is well worth letting into your inbox, if you are interested in issues concerning telecommunications or the study of communications. It also brings in subjects and sources that I do not receive from other places; I've found several interesting resources as a result of a cross-posting through RRE. The traffic level is just right and the message headers and introductions are clear enough so that one can quickly process and delete messages that don't speak to your particular requirements. I expect I read about 50% of RRE messages, but the crucial point is that I enjoy or make good use of that 50%.
Dr. Sandy Kyrish Telecommunications Consultant Oreland PA USA
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:43:29 -0700 From: smith@sfu.ca (Richard Smith)
"I teach university courses which provide an 'introduction to new media' in the School of Communication at Simon Fraser University, in Vancouver, CANADA. Phil Agre's RRE is a valuable resource for identifying trends and issues. I frequently use the longer articles from TNO as assigned readings. Thoughtful, balanced, and always critical (in the best sense of the word), Phil's articles consistently expand the boundaries and raise the level of 'net discourse' among my students."
Richard Smith Assistant Professor School of Communication Simon Fraser University
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:14:01 -0400 From: prospero@onramp.net (Jamie Friddle)
There is a chasm into which most real information and news falls and is lost forever. But if somebody is holding a net over the chasm, it's Red Rock Eater News Service.
Jamie Friddle Editorial Director 214-824-5362 editors@bookport.com
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 11:15:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Robson
RRE does indeed have an excellent ratio of content I find interesting, and the uninteresting (most often announcements of conferences I couldn't consider attending or calls for papers I will never write) is easily identifiable.
I have wondered myself why RRE's contents so often match my interests, and what its "subject" is. I suppose great editing, like great writing, defies a mechanical description.
The price is right too!
Andy Robson Engineer for a major cellular telephone carrier
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 14:02:08 -0700 From: hlr@well.com (Howard Rheingold)
Phil Agre is the only person who furnishes information about the Net that is not just technically and politically, but socially, savvy. I wouldn't do without the Red Rock Eater for keeping up with what's happening, and what it all means.
Howard Rheingold
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 02:40:25 +0300 (WET)
From: Omer Zak
Blurb 1: RRE - The premiere Internet curiosities filtering service.
Blurb 2: The philosophy of human rights in cyberspace, which was made widely available in RRE, contributed to liberalizing of access to the Internet in Israel.
Omer Zak Datacomm Coordinator Association of the Deaf in Israel ISRAEL
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 20:20:49 -0400 From: AdamRCohen@aol.com
RRE is my early warning system on the Internet. It alerts me to major issues while there's still time to respond.
Adam Cohen New York, NY
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:46:13 PDT From: RBogue@iquest.net
"I find Red Ock Eater News Service an excelent way to keep up on issues which may have a profound effect on my Cyberlife."
Robert Bogue Author & Technical Editor of computerbooks Indianapolis, IN
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 10:49:13 +0900 From: kitanaka@st.rim.or.jp (Hideaki Kitanaka)
I enjoy reading the list very much. Hope you can attract new subscribers.
Hideaki Kitanaka Lecturer(Part Time), Keio University Tokyo, Japan
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 20:35:24 -0700 From: Shinnick@mindlink.bc.ca (John Shinnick)
RRE has been valuable to me because it conveys information and covers subjects that are not always covered by my local news services. I also like your own personal spin on things. You're a good writer and your viewpoint is valuable to me whenever there's a larger issue that oculd use a bit of insight.
John Shinnick Editor/Publisher Media Wave Magazine
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 95 11:55:19 -0700 From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Well sir, as one ListMaster to another (my largest has 470 members), I can say that the admin work is never done, the members generally fail to appreciate the effort, are quick to complain about service, seldom read the list FAQ/doc/introductory letter, and generally is a work of love. Having that in mine, accept my thanks for the administrative effort involved.
As to content, It's a joy to read (when I have time after my administering :-) ).
Mike Shirley, ListOwner; Explorer-L
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 13:11:09 -0700 From: huuuk@ix.netcom.com (John Jenkins)
Good to have the reason to respond and tell you I appreciate your service and your eclectic approach. You've included things that you don't seem to personally ascribe to, but which I am very interested in, which I am grateful for. A good broad based selection.
John Jenkins Long time observer of the human carnival McLean, Virginia
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 95 13:34:33
From: "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL"
I have been subscribing to RRE for nearly a year. I use it to keep up-to-date with the latest in comms legislation and other important net happenings.
Ian May Editor, CommUnicator The official organ of CommUnity, the UK online users association
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 18:01:43 +0100 From: jvl@sigma.ou.dk (Jesper Vissing Laursen)
As a freelance writer on Internet-related subjects I have found your service to be invaluable. I write for Denmark's second largest daily newspaper, Politiken, whose Computer-section published each Thursday is read by ca 10 % of the Danish population. Thanks to the Red Rock Eater News Service I have been able to monitor the important issues concerning the Internet and have often relied on your coverage in order to get a full view of the individual story.
Keep up the good work!
Jesper Vissing Laursen Freelance writer Politiken Denmark
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 00:00:12 +0530 (GMT+05:30)
From: Arun Mehta
I remember the first time I logged onto the Internet, excited about the wonderful world that hid behind that Unix prompt, not knowing how to begin. rre helped open up that world to me -- sources of information, the issues involved, communities that I could join. Phil is also the first Cyberfriend I made. Bless him, and the rre.
Arun Mehta Indata New Delhi, India
Date: 6 Aug 1995 21:40:50 U
From: "Peter van Ammelrooy"
RRE keeps me well informed on the latest from the shakers and the movers on the Internet or from the people who don't want to be shaked out of their ignorance
Peter van Ammelrooy journalist from the Netherlands (or Holland, in Europa)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 95 17:14:07 -0400 From: mob@media.mit.edu
The Red Rock Eater Service mail has always been of interest, often providing useful articles or news about social issues and technology. In particular, it has allowed me to remain aware of the social roles, discussion, and negotiations about the uses of computing technology. I have often forwarded articles selected from the mail to my group to stress the social and cultural aspects of our work. I am very happy to be on this list and receive the benefit of the selections from multiple sources by its moderator, Phil Agre.
Mario O. Bourgoin Senior Scientist Data Intelligence Group Dun & Bradstreet Cambridge, MA 02139
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 08:46:31 +0700 (TST)
From: Theo Den Brinker
I have found the Red Rock Eaters New Service a useful and interesting way to keep up to date with issues dealing with the internet, related technologies and their social impact. RRE can be used as a model for the benifits of the Internet and of human editorship. While much has been made of the World Wide Web an email news service such as RRE delivers especially in low bandwidth countries such as Thailand. It is also nice to get the news "home delivered."
Theo den Brinker Electronic Publishing Bangkok Post Thailand
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 10:43:56 -0400
From: "Dan Ellis"
I have found RRE to be one of my most consistently interesting yet broadest and least predictable sources of information. I also have a grudging admiration for its success as agit-prop; Recently, I called my senator for the first time, something I might never have done without the constant stream of alerts and editorials from the list.
Dan Ellis Graduate Student MIT Media Lab - Machine Listening Group
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 08:51:49 -0700
From: Richard Mateosian
I have subscribed to many lists that deal with issues of politics and policy in the area of high technology, but RRE is the only one to survive my latest purge.
RRE has lots of content but doesn't beat issues to death. Phil Agre is a good editor: he selects well, and he adds useful analysis without bombast. He is a serious student of the issues. I have no trouble discerning his viewpoint, but when he tells me something, I never feel that he's twisted it to conform to an ideology.
Richard Mateosian Freelance Technical Writer Berkeley, California
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:34 EDT From: Paul_Green@vos.stratus.com
"If you are looking for a service that selects interesting, cogent and relevant articles about social issues of computing, then you should subscribe to RRE."
Paul Green Software Engineer, Voter, and US Citizen Harvard, MA
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:03:05 EDT
From: "George Casler"
As the gopher administrator for a K-12 Resources and Telecommunications issues gopher, RRE has been most useful to me by providing consistently interesting and timely information relating to privacy and policy issues in telecommunications. The range and depth of material provided by Dr. Agre has been amazing. Some folks have referred to the TelecommInfo/Reading Room section of our gopher as an "RRE Archive."
George Casler Gopher Administrator New York State Education Department Albany, NY
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 08:06:45 +0900 From: briank@twics.com (Brian Kushnir)
"The Red Rock Eater News Service consistently delivers a thoughtful and eclectic mix of information drawn from a wide variety of sources on how new forms of communication are influencing society."
Brian Kushnir Senior Research Executive Infoplan Tokyo, Japan
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:15:52 +1200 (NZT)
From: Mimi Recker
Effective filtering and PDA technologies are still a long way off -- in the interim, Red Rock Eater fills an important void by redistributing the cream of Internet conversations on the social and political aspects of global information technologies.
RRE is always eagerly consumed by this ex-pat Californian living on an isolated island in the South Pacific.
Mimi Recker Lecturer, Educational Technology Victoria University of Wellington Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 17:33:16 +0100
From: "C.A.Williams"
I have found this service rather useful. Partly because it enables me to keep up with the debates around electronic privacy etc in the US - but mostly because of the eclectic nature of the information that comes out. Every so often I read things that I wasn't expecting to, and which I am pleased to know. In an era of narrowcasting, it's important not to wear blinkers all the time.
Chris Williams Postgraduate Student History Department University of Sheffield UK
Date: 8 Aug 1995 16:11:27GMT
From: Ellis Weinberger
I have found the Red Rock Eater mailing list a very useful, fruitful, and entertaining source of information for my research projects.
Ellis Weinberger Senior Library Assistant School of Oriental and African Studies University of London
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 16:21:17 +0100 (BST)
From: ODochartaigh N
Dear Phil Agre, I meant to write you a note before just to let you know how much I appreciate the service you provide. I like the eclectic mix of philosophy, politics, internet culture, and technology theory. I am subscribed to several lists and email newsletters and I find yours the single most useful list. It doesn't flood my mailbox, I don't have to weed out reams of useless information. It's great.
Niall O Dochartaigh (Dr.) Research Officer - INCORE (Initiative on Conflict Resolution and Ethnicity) United Nations University/University of Ulster Coleraine N. Ireland
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 15:00:40 -0600 From: borton@macc.wisc.edu (Barry Orton)
The Red Rock Eater News Service has become a valuable source of the information I need to know but don't usually seek. Phil Agre manages to generate a high "save to delete ratio," the ultimate measure of list value.
Barry Orton Professor of Telecommunications University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 11:21:55 +1000 From: m.lean@qut.edu.au (Michael Lean)
I have been a subscriber to RRE since its inception, and it has provided me with a wealth of interesting and useful material. Working as I do in the copyright field, I have found that RRE has given me a picture of the various forces that operate in influencing legislation. As well, RRE has provided timely information on useful Internet resources, and it is a service that I look forward to finding in my mailbox. In addition, the maintenance of the RRE archive has been useful on a number of occasions, and I have been able to direct colleagues to information of help to them in their researches. I also look forward to receiving TNO, which again is a document which provides interesting and useful commentary on the culture of the net.
Michael M. Lean University Copyright Officer Queensland University of Technology Brisbane, Australia
Date: 9 Aug 95 12:07:00 EDT
From: Dan Tebbutt at ACP-Sydney
Hi Phil,
I have found RRE to be especially useful in filtering socio-political developments in the US on telecommunications and NII policy. As a foreign journalist in a country experiencing rapid expansion from an already large base of Internet users, US developments affect us in major ways. Concise reportage on significant manoeuvres is vital to my work.
One series of bulletins I found outstanding was the coverage of the Time 'cyberporn' cover story and the ensuing fallout. Posting critical documents to the listserv saved me hours trolling through Usenet group. It proved once again that mailing lists have a higher signla to noise ratio than newsgroups.
Dan Tebbutt Contributing Editor LAN Magazine (Australia/New Zealand)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 13:41:23 -0400 From: Jspeace@aol.com
The RRE mailing list keeps me up to date on interesting/ergent information as it relates to the information age. It's the best source for varried and accurate reporting.
Jeremy Stark Manager, Information Systems access.point New York City
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 95 23:14:38 From: william.paris@accessil.com
As a new Internet user,I have attempted to locate sources which provide timely economic,social,political and environmental information.Based on my brief experience,I would highly recommend the"Red Rock Eater News Service" as an excellent source of information on the contemporary issues we face as a society.
William Paris,Jr President Current Pana Corp.
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 16:55:27 -0400
From: Thad Starner
Many of my "socially responsible" actions start from the news I receive on rre. In fact, I tend to archive rre as a information source for talking with other people. rre tends to be well moderated, current, and have a good SNR.
Thad Starner PhD candidate MIT Media Laboratory Cambridge, MA ```
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